Do You Speak Manguage?
82Men and Women - Differences in Written Form
I was having a chat with Mr. X on Facebook, we were just shooting the breeze and one comment led to another and soon we found ourselves talking Manguage. I said I thought that it would be interesting to do a hub on this topic. He said:
"It is a choice."
I looked at that sentence and the only thing I see wrong with it is -- oops! .....is that a period I see at the end of that sentence? It looks like he isn't very excited about that idea - it looks like he thinks it might not be a good idea! Doesn't it?
I hurried and did a google search entering the words "man / language / punctuation".
The first thing that popped up was a short article about how a teacher wrote these words on the black board:
"A woman without her man is nothing"
He instructed the class to rewrite the sentence and use punctuation. The end result was that all of the males translated it like this:
"A woman, without her man, is nothing."
All of the females translated it like this:
"A woman: without her, man is nothing."
I do not think it is coincidental that all of the men and all of the woman internalized and personalized that sentence, quickly and were equally divided.
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- Writing Assignment - the difference between men and women | Maree Anderson | Author
I received this by email back in March 2006 (thanks Rowena, for sending it to me) and I still laugh when I read it. In my opinion, this is a classic example
Differences in Written Form
I assumed that since almost everyone agrees that spoken communication between females and males is completely different, evidence would be clear we also have differences in our writing styles.
The differences that I found are profound. Men and women communicate so differently in written form I was able to find many examples that are surprising and hilarious. For example, I have linked an assignment that was given by a college instructor for an online assignment. The results were rapid and in about 5 paragraphs you can see this relationship would have been explosive if carried on in written form.
Some of the differences that are found in written language are that women use more pronouns, superlatives, metaphors and overall generalizations which can make for a communication train wreck between males and females. Women are more intimate and use expressions of thanks, apologies, expressions of appreciation. Men are more adverse and are much more likely to issue put downs, they are more contentious with assertions and are more prone to self promote. Men who post on the Internet are more likely to have lengthy and more frequent posts.
Male vs. Female Behavior
And this video does have a point....
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Equality and the internet.....
After reading several abstracts regarding the research on studies about written differences in males and females, one remarkable difference is that women and men show that they are creating the same differences online and offline in their relationships.
Women are more intimate. They use written language to intimate and build relationships. Women use weaker language, are less aggressive and relationship oriented. Women still appear to be nurturing online and they seek to establish connections and closeness. Women will ask more questions.
Is it surprising that one of the most frequently typed phrases in women language was:
"I wonder if...." (Mulac & Lundel, 1994)
Women converse and use language to find common ground. They like to hash things out but the interesting thing is, they want to agree. If one woman in a group disagrees with the general consensus of the group - they will isolate her. This lends confusion to the idea that women want to see other women succeed. It proves that women want other women to be the same and agree and not be different.
Men are aggressive, competitive and more dominating in written form. Men write and speak about resolutions or about their own status. They communicate to establish dominance and control. Men want to win. Man's communication style online is just as simple as off line. They do not use extra words, punctuation or emoticons. Men are power driven and want to be in control at home and on the Internet. The alpha dog complex rules.
I looked at the statistics of online users in totality and the estimation was that just a little less than half of the online world is dominated by men. The ideology that men are more powerful and in control is apparent in the online world. I think it is very interesting that we proclaim that males and females are libertated and equal. The online world is rapidly proving that we are a very sexist society. Without faces, pictures or curves the internet is very indicative of our offline behavior, individually and collectively.
Women want to be seen as equal to their male counter parts. If this is going to happen women need to think more powerfully and then they will communicate in written form more effectively. The belief that men are more powerful and dominating has managed to be perpetuated in a community where the sex of the typist could be anonymous. It isn't though because women will betray their sensitive nature in writing and men will cut to the chase and speak his own manguage.
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I have to stop the urge to begin every sentence with "I think" when I write not just because it is a female trait but also because it is very wimpy writing. I have to be more aggressive. I think one of the reasons that HP wanted us to get rid of the banners is that the females wanted to decorate their hubs with them, and it doesn't look very masculine.
Okay, I noticed that I started with "I think" right after I said I avoided them. Sigh.
"WANTED" Woman to perform home duties. Must be able gut and cook Fish. Please provide picture of Boat.
Men and women handle and approach things in different ways in the flesh, so what you write in your hub does make sense, although the thought probably would never have occurred to me before.
You've started something now...I can see that I'll be comparing the writings of men to that of women just out of interest...
An interesting hub and thank you for sharing your observations....
Men do think differently than woman do or so I've been told so many times, by men of course. I guess it only stands to reason that the way in which they write would also be different. Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus.
Oh... I love this... especially the title of manguage... which I just had to erase and respell because appparently my spelling is atrocious for made up words! LOL
So out of curiousity, I went to google adwords and put in "I wonder if" and did you know it is searched globably about 135,000 times a month. That is pretty amazing. I wonder if it is all women that are hitting the search button for that one!
Once again... great article... gonna share share share until I am blue in the face!
Men are different in the way they walk and talk, that's for sure. Writers are taught to try to write in an 'action' voice. Use action verbs, don't write in a passive mode. Difficult for women to do.
This is so funny and perfect and true! I once watched a video of Mark Gungor about mens' brain and women's brain... it is so funny and your hub just reminded me of it! You should youtube it... I think you would enjoy it :-) Anyways... Your hub was wonderful and so excellent! lol. I'm going to be thinking about this all day now ;-)
Men just want to hear what others have to say and not play guess that answer.
When I see Eli next week... I will say How's it going! LOL. And I have to agree with you, the military background probably mascalinizes us women. Then again... I have always been somewhat of a tom boy so I am not sure if it was all military or if it was just me. However, I do have a complete obsession with emoticons... and my punctuation skills are attrocious because I love the ellipses because I think it "decorates" the writing... Ha ha... man I need to go get something done!
Hey RealHousewife, this is definitely an interesting and useful read. Like I have said in the past and maybe people will now believe me when I say, I learn from people when they write anything online, in forum posts or anything at all. It isn't difficult to tell the difference between men and women with regards to writing, as you pointed out. I guess I didn't learn much from your hub considering it's something I have been discerning all along. LOL! I did get a laugh from it, so that's why I voted it up! :)
YOU DID IT!! I love it!! Barry's comment cracks me up... Is that my husband in disguise??? LOL Kelly, you make so many good points. I am going to link this to my "What Men Should Know About Women" hub!! Great information! Votes and shares!! :-)
RHW -If you've never read "Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus" by Dr. Gray, I highly recommend it.
Great Hub in Frog Speak.
The Frog
Interesting subject, Kelly, about the differences between male and female language. When I taught 'Assertive Behavior,' I often used this example. When dining with a group of people, a man might say, "Pass the salt." A woman more frequently would say (before Assertive Behavior training): "Is the salt down there at the end of the table?"
Thanks for this fascinating choice of subject.
Kelly...
Very interesting premise and it makes sense considering men and women seem incapable of communication without having communication differences. Weird that considering...we only have each other to talk to. What the hell God?
So what about those of us who abuse the ellipse??
Thanks,
Thomas
Hey Real, men just know how to say it with no frills, I mean no BS lol ha-ha voted up and shared.
Very nice piece, and one that makes you sit up and read. The differences between males and females are interesting, and I think a lot more research is needed to draw out trends and themes, like what you have just did.
Delicious food for thought. I find men online are much quicker to name-call and belittle opposing thought. Feeds into the want to win trend (I wonder). I expect to hear much more on this subject. If this hits the talk show circuit, we'll know where it came from!
When I started reading, I thought "Manguage? What the hell is it?" It is an interesting concept, but I would assume that the way we speak is truly the way we are, the way we express ourselves.
Language always reflect nationality (let's say if you compare this English or that English or English as a second/third language), language reflects age, generation, epoch - that is for sure...
not to drown in the language of my own - unique, no doubt, female, no doubt,
language is a portrait of a person, a unique portrait.
Both genders can imitate each other and, frankly, can learn to play the role of each other -
the clips were funny - why men and women will never be the same, but being the SAME is not the goal - never
FINDING A VOICE - for a person, for a speaker, for a writer - that is the goal and the less common denominators are there, the more unique it is.
I hope.
An interesting topic, especially for the languages lovers, I meant, writers.
Kelly...
(Laughing) (drooling) (wiping away snot) (laughing some more) ...yeah...I'm glad you sent me back to read the assignment. Good stuff! I have to say...there is NOTHING more boring than a story that starts with tea.
Thanks,
Thomas
PS...in terms of my use of the ellipse...yes...I molest them and use them badly. Still...I use them better than commas!
Thank you, RealHousewife, for your compliments, frankly, it was the last thing I expected. A dynamite writer?
Surely, you belong to the Elite on HubPages, I was wondering what the qualifications are.
As far as being masculine and/or feminine - sometimes my radar is fairly off..
I remember one occurrence when I had a conversation in a ladies washroom with my friend.
Note:
Ladies' is the great place to have honest conversations.
I was lamenting me being too masculine and I was expressing a wish to be more feminine like my friend. She surprised me with the same sentiment - she thought I was more feminine than her and wanted to be like me.
After that moment I decided that we don't really see the reality. We perceive and we create reality - and in our creating process - words are essential -
the way we sound - the way we "paint" ourselves and others with labels - feminine, masculine - these two just a fraction.
So, your choice of the word "dynamite writer" made me jump in my seat. Immediately I felt more masculine and determined to throw a couple of writing grenades at the world...
Why not?
So, thank you very much for your compliment again and I can honestly say that you made my day as well.
Now, "on to the literary barricades!!!"
Very interesting hub. Though since at least one person (or possibly 2) have left comments indicating that they think I am a man, I’m not sure what that means about my writing! (Or maybe it says more about them, since everyone else has worked it out.) Have you read “Man Made Language” by Dale Spender? I read it years ago and it is very interesting…!!/,:;*!…
I would say - enjoy being the Elite - it brings upper class connotations, whether it is true or not, it is not really important.
The important thing to me is to be myself, and me - myself has as many reflections as there are readers.
So, be it - Elite.
It is a word, does not change your essence...
Whatever you are, whatever you wish to be.
Just be.
Haha this was an interesting read and it made me think of the text messages I share back and forth with my husband and the ones I share back and forth with my girl friends. I SEE what you are saying. The proof is still sitting in my phone! My husband speaks manguage and I do not :( No wonder we always bicker after texting :)
Hi RHW,
This hub speaks volumes between men and women and I would first like to commend you on writing such a "difficult" topic :))
I agree that if one woman disagrees she is isolated and it's different in the case of men.
Men and women speak different languages and understand it differently. Classic example is the progresso soup ad where the woman calls and says that she has fitted into her jeans and the guy on the other end keeps saying, "ok" to which the lady finally says that she needs to speak to a woman...lol
voted way up girl!
Enjoyable write and subject Kelly; and pretty much true. There are some exceptions to the rule as HP can demonstrate. And Kelly my friend, if you ever catch me starting a sentence with "I wonder if..." please give me a virtual slap on the head!
Your article is fabulous. I enjoyed reading it. I see much truth in what you wrote. Thank you for the good read.
Manguage? Sounds like something I pooped out this morning. LOL. How's that for Manguage REALHousewife? :)
This was interesting to read.
Thank you, Kelly, I will return the favor and link to 'Manguage' in my Assertive Behavior hub. And you are absolutely on the mark. Our written language can give us away almost as easily as our verbal language.
For example: women use emoticons like :), etc. and 'lol' expressions much more frequently then men.
Funny stuff and so true how we could tell the difference between a male and female from their punctuation and emoticons! Some aren't as easy to figure out, but eventually it starts to click. UP and awesome!!
Women talk to work things out in their own minds. Men who are smart, simply listen and nod their heads, never offering a solution, because women aren't looking for a solution. They simply want us to listen.
Hello Dear Kelly ~ I give you credit for writing this article and your great style and video selections. I'm thinking men think with certain parts of their body and if you give them a 'manwich' they are happy as a clam. That's like all I have to say about that and a box of chocolates. Love, Debby
Oh...I think about chocolate too...
hahaha!
This is highly creative. I think you have unleashed your gift. Congratulations on having a hub of the week. Excellent!
Is it possible that in spirit we are all the same, and the differences between Women and Men in the physical world is intentional?
I believe that God made us this way so that we can all learn from each other.
I'll have to get back to you on this :c)
Kelly.....Excellent hub! Truer words have never been spoken by man or woman. The differences between the sexes are so vast and varied, we could write about them forever. And you know what? We could ALL read them, study them in depth, and do an assignment.....after which, every "difference" would remain and that's THAT.
Will Starr is one smart guy....OR, he's taken the time to really LISTEN to his woman, because the fact is, "Women don't want a solution, we just want someone to "listen." Up +++
We all practically notice these differences, and get frustrated. But then we learn to get across the gap - in a manner. To put it down in an analytical manner, and an entertaining form, was wonderful. Voted up and sharing.
Kelly....I guess mine is a weird situation, but my husband talks much more than I do. I believe it's "personality-type" related. He is super hyper, high-powered....I'm pretty even keel. The other possibility is....I don't need to say much to get my intentions across......LMAO!
Hello RealHousewife. Getting back, just a tad-bit. Last night on my journey home from work I pondered this hub. I thought of argots. Those used by women, men, mixed company, children, old, and cultures.
Example of a time passed in my life, though sexist, causes a grin - speaking manguage. One long, haired bearded hippie, hot rodder character speaking to a friend in the grocery store. "How about those headlights, they're bright. That suspension system has a nice sway to it. Probably all show and no go. Should I ask for a test drive, maybe Fri night. I'll check out the tune-up in the checkout line."
Now the mystery and the question. Did he get the date or not? Manguage opens many doors of opportunity. Thank you for bringing this wonderful, enlightening :), friendly hub to us. Inspiring :p , , ,
(grin) I like that country talk! Seriously a moment. This article is awesome. I have been over thinking my comments since reading it. I even tossed in some emotioncons along the way. Awareness is an adventure.
LOL - loved this, the Mars v Venus thing just never stops being interesting...
Dear Kelly - I would like to congratulate you on your 100% profile rating. Quite an accomplishment and this blog ain't too shabby, too! All the best to you! Debby
BTW, there must be celebration, I think you hit 100 since I last visited your HubPage! :)
What a lesson in semantics and paradigm! Fun hub! I enjoyed every bit of it!
Hello Real,
I can really see your point from living in a world of manspeak. My daughter has called me a "metrosexual" laughingly, and I kinda think that is a good thing. I know I have evolved in many ways, but your thoughtful and humorous article will make me think about the way I write.
HAHA! I loved it! This reminded me of a conversation I was trying to have with a certain male. I finally told him I needed a know-it-all-can-do-it-all-pill. Great hub!!
It sure seems to make sense that men's writing would be different from women's but I've never thought about it before. I think men are usually more direct and women tend to be more empathetic also. I really enjoyed this very interesting hub and I agree with you completely.
Very interesting! A topic I never thought about. Now, looking back, I found my speaking voice only in college, an all women school. Earlier, in my co-ed high school, I was always more silent than not, and if a discussion became contentious would immediately stop participating. What an interesting insight you gave me into my younger self. Up and interesting.
I missed this so came back to read, and it's Up all the way across. Made me wonder if there is any kind of count of Hubbers (how many men/women each). It seems that I read as many of one as the other, but generally I only read in the Lit. category. I do know that there are a number of strong women writers here (you for sure and Cardisa, and a number of others I read regularly.















































lord de cross 3 months ago
Now you've got me thinking!! I might have a language of my own too.At time hilarious and complex enough, since we are us the Lords... and I'm myself as in Joseph. I might speak manguage at times and not even notice it. It really depends on each of us, add moods and full moon moments! Thanks for Sharing Kelly!
LORD